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From alf.uib.no!trane.uninett.no!sunic!pipex!uunet!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!boulder!ucsu!spot.Colorado.EDU!siffert Thu Jul 15 18:23:34 MET DST 1993
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From: siffert@spot.Colorado.EDU (Thunder-Thumbs)
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Subject: Re: VIM: Does it provide :ab[breviate] command ?
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Message-ID: <1993Jul11.082004.9176@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
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References: <1993Jul9.095130.8521@philce.ce.philips.nl>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 08:20:04 GMT
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i323856@indus.cad-sg.ce.philips.nl ( DEWENDRA SHASTRI ) scribes:
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>Hi Netters,
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>I am having a problem in switching from standarad vi to Vi iMitation (VIM)
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>editor. I have lots of abbreaviations in .exrc file, vim cribs about them as
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>"Invalid command". I did not find any referrence to this problem in the
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>reference.doc supplied with the editor. Moreover differences.doc also
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>doesnot talk about this. If any body has any information about this, it
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>will be nice.
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>Thanx in advans
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>Devendra Shastri (i323856@cad-sg.ce.philips.nl)
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The abbreviate command counts as an Ex command, which isn't supported
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fully in VIM. I got around this by remapping my abbr stuff to escape
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key sequences. It's not a big deal.
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Incidentally, I didn't even realize that capability until recently.
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In escape mode (both vi and vim), you can map something like esc-s
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and it's a valid command if you do it fast enough. No wonder there's
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that one-second lag before vi beeps at you on a double-escape... it's
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making sure it's not a real command! pretty nifty.
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Curt (siffert@spot.colorado.edu)
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From alf.uib.no!trane.uninett.no!sunic!uunet!news.cnri.reston.va.us!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!ra.csc.ti.com!process!frc Wed Jul 21 10:10:25 MET DST 1993
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From: frc@process (Robert Colon)
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Subject: Re: VIM:Does it provide :ab[breviate] command ?
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References: <21kpa9INNqa6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 15:09:15 GMT
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> In <1993Jul9.095130.8521@philce.ce.philips.nl> i323856@indus.cad-sg.ce.philips.nl ( DEWENDRA SHASTRI ) writes:
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> >Hi Netters,
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> >I am having a problem in switching from standarad vi to Vi iMitation (VIM)
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> >editor. I have lots of abbreaviations in .exrc file, vim cribs about them as
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> It doesn't seem to be there, at least in 1.27. I was somewhat annoyed
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> too, maybe :ab will be in a future version. On the other hand, the extra
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> features have convinced me to donate a significant portion of my quota to
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> vim + docs, even though this system as a perfectly good "real" vi. As
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> long as I'm not connected at speeds below 9600 baud, I can live w/o ":ab"
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> As a temporary measure, a :map! might help you out...
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> --
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> Maurice S. Barnum --- I consult, therefore I am:
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> msb@cats.ucsc.edu, mbarnum@eis.calstate.edu, mbarnum@nyx.cs.du.edu
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vim version 1.28, which is now in beta, definitely supports :ab along with
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some other nice new features like a toggle between line wrap and horizontal
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scrolling. I too have switched from using commercial vi (which is going
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nowhere) to vim. vim has enough new extensions (cut/paste [including by
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columns] indicated by reverse video, multi-level undo/redo, ability to edit
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long lines and binary files, etc.), handles all my complex macros, fixes
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several vi annoyances, and is robust enough that I have adopted it as my
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standard editor. Plus, if one is not aware of the new features, vim works
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"just like vi". PLUS, one has the source code! As importantly, the author,
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Bram Moolenaar, has been quite responsive to users reporting bugs and
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requesting new features. (Ever try doing that with vi?)
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The 1.28 version probably won't be available for a few months yet but will be
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worth the wait.
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--
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Robert Colon EMAIL: frc@dadd.ti.com
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Texas Instruments, Inc. MSGID: FRC
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Design Automation Division MS 3937 PHONE: 214/917-3644
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P.O. Box 650311 Dallas, Tx 75265 FAX: 214/917-7966
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From: msb@cats.ucsc.edu (Maurice S Barnum)
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Subject: Re: VIM:Does it provide :ab[breviate] command ?
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Date: 21 Jul 1993 00:12:07 GMT
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In <CA24rF.9nr@csc.ti.com> frc@process (Robert Colon) writes:
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>standard editor. Plus, if one is not aware of the new features, vim works
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>"just like vi". PLUS, one has the source code! As importantly, the author,
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>Bram Moolenaar, has been quite responsive to users reporting bugs and
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>requesting new features. (Ever try doing that with vi?)
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A few things about vim that are NOT "just like vi":
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o screen refresh is abysmally slow. Too much text is being moved around
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in cases where a line scroll would be sufficient.
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o there is no :set redraw, which I find essential on slow connections,
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even more so with vim than with vi. :(
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o vim doesn't deal well with tvi-type terminals. ^H and ^K get
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interpreted as arrow movements. I don't know if this is a termcap
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problem, or a vim problem, but vi and everyting else works just fine.
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hrm. I would have sent them in as bug reports, but didn't know where.
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--
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Maurice S. Barnum The errors of great men are venerable
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msb@cats.ucsc.edu becauxse they are more fruitful than
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mbarnum@eis.calstate.edu the truths of little men....
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mbarnum@nyx.cs.du.edu --- F. Nietzsche
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